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In 1987, Playboy deputed John Waters to interview his idol, Little Richard. "He had just put out an autobiography where he talked most existence a drag queen, he mailed people bowel movements — he was correct upwards my alley!" Waters told me. But the conversation was a bit of a bust. Little Richard wasn't the campy, sprightly figure Waters was hoping he would be. "It didn't end well. He didn't have the mustache, he wore bourgeois suits, said anti-gay stuff," Waters said. "I even so love Little Richard, merely there'due south a thing where people say never come across your idols. That, perchance, is true."

Waters couldn't have known, only while on the Acela to Baltimore, where he has lived his entire life and where many of his movies are ready, I was worried I'd have exactly that kind of moment with him. Most famous people don't live up to our heady expectations, and if Waters was a little more tempered in person than his freak charmant public persona, no i could blame him. All the same, I fretted. What if he was bearish? Or what if he was deadening?

I first heard of John Waters around 2003, when I was in junior high. Cable channels played Cry-Baby on a steady loop at two a.m. I had no idea what was going on in that moving-picture show — why was Johnny Depp collecting his tears in a jar?? — just it stirred something deep in my soul. That's the whole thing about a Waters product; if yous experience like no one sees you, or if yous feel similar you stick out likewise much, his movies are a relieve. Freaks like us become to exist the proficient guys, finally.

And then here's some good news: John Waters is exactly who you want him to exist. Having simply turned 76, he's still riotously funny and quick — and also truly disgusting. For 50 years, Waters has been our self-appointed "filth elder," guiding us into the perverse with cult archetype movies like 1972'south Pinkish Flamingos, 1981's Polyester, 1988's Hairspray, and 1990's Cry-Baby. As a director, he's ever had an center for pleasing sleaze, like drag queen Divine eating a scattering of domestic dog shit with glee. (For years, my friends and I scoured the early internet hoping to discover a clip of information technology, hoping it was real and not some urban legend, and we were utterly delighted when we establish out: It was existent, and it was spectacular.) Equally a author — he wrote about hitchhiking beyond the country in 2014's Carsick and about how to become and be famous in his 2022 memoir, Mr. Know-It-All — he knows exactly how to brand you lot laugh while gagging. His latest offering is a debut work of fiction that again thrills in the near wretched way: Liarmouth is a novel about a liar who tin can't stop lying.

Waters' business firm is nondescript, simply he does take a small-scale sign taped to a desk in forepart of his door, "authorizing" whatsoever deliveries to be left outside. His signature adorns the bottom as if it were a legal certificate and not the equivalent of a Post-information technology. When he opened the door, he waved me into his opulent salon, which was brimful in red brocade curtains, tchotchkes, precious ephemera, and several tables covered with behemothic coffee tabular array books.

He took a seat in an armchair and immediately started grinning.

John Waters has 2 smiles. One is a polite "cheers for coming to my dwelling" smile, which I saw when he ushered me in. The other is a footling Cheshire true cat grin that spreads across his face, slowly, like an ooze, unremarkably when he is most to say something perversely funny. Over the course of the ii hours I spent in his abode, it was thrilling to meet him erupt in that smiling over and over once more.

At that place are ix,000 books in Waters' home — in this one, at least; he has more in his New York apartment and Provincetown house. He too has a picture archive elsewhere, where many of his prized movie possessions are kept. He claims all of his books are cataloged online so he knows which ones he owns. Does that hateful he can observe a detail book if he's looking for i in his house? "Ehh," he said, guiding me up a twisting staircase, by some decals of kittens on the wall, to his sleeping room, which is well-nigh preternaturally tidy and unremarkable, its queen-size bed tucked tightly with crisp white infirmary corners. Conversely, one of his bathrooms appears to just be a storage room for colorful blazers and nothing else. Another crawl space was just for windbreakers. Waters has and so many desks I lost count, but I only saw one television receiver, which appeared to be 40 years old.

As he continued his tour, I glimpsed a sliver of a recognizable face up on a sail. "Oh, a Michael Jackson portrait," I said.

"Aye!" Waters said, endmost a closet and so I could get a full view. "Michael Jackson looking through a glory hole!"

Then he motioned to a little wooden structure propped up on a side table — a birdhouse. "It's the Unabomber's house," he said.

If you experience like no one sees you, or if y'all experience like you stick out too much, his movies are a relieve. Freaks like the states get to be the proficient guys, finally.

Indeed, the birdhouse was a replica of Ted Kaczynski'due south cabin, windowless and all — but shrunken down. Next to it sabbatum a horrible doll that looked like information technology had been electrocuted, waterboarded, and then set on fire. "Bill," he said. "My fake infant."

Waters has a lot of Kaczynski-themed art. He showed me an eerie framed photograph of the former location of Kaczynski's cabin, with only the FBI fencing intact afterwards the cabin was taken abroad every bit testify. Waters' attic as well contains a hidden room that'due south a recreation of the interior of Kaczynski's cabin, to scale and replete in stunning item. "Every single thing you need to make a bomb is in here except gunpowder," Waters told me while I gawked at the piles of documents and dust that'south collected over the years. "That's his married woman'due south pubic hair in that location."

When I asked him why he had so much work defended to the Unabomber, he reacted as if I asked him what the signal of music was. "Information technology's an art piece!" he said before wandering off.

We went downstairs and passed a life-size portrait of a human urinating on himself. "That'due south Tony Tasset," he said when I stopped to stare. "It'southward called 'I Peed in My Pants.' Enron had information technology in their office or something." Nearby, wedged betwixt two doorways, sat a butler's tray, covered with plates of faux nuts, raisins, and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Waters, a former smoker, still displays ashtrays, like an original piece by Yoshitomo Nara, now worth thousands of dollars. "Too young to die" is painted on the side.

The inside of Waters' house is what I imagine the inside of Waters' brain is like: strange and funny and totally surprising, every crevice of it full of something else incongruous and unpredictable. His work has always been punk, a measure of rebellion and chaos. I asked Waters, as so many people have, whether the proliferation of online pornography has made it harder for him to stupor his audition — after all, information technology's a lot easier to notice footage of a woman eating shit now than it was in the '70s. "Nosotros didn't do that for sex," he said. "We did it for anarchy!" He said that Jackass was the movie nigh spiritually aligned with Pink Flamingos. "[Jackass] was a huge hit because it'south funny. No i jerks off and laughs."

I haven't stopped thinking nearly that line always since — can you turn someone on while you lot tell them a joke?

Even if y'all oasis't seen a John Waters flick, you've likely seen at least i John Waters quote, normally gussied upwardly in pastel letters on Bookstagram: "If yous go home with somebody and they don't accept books, don't fuck 'em."

Now, Waters has an annex: "If they're cute enough, you ignore information technology."

Actually, one more: "The other affair is, if they accept books in the bathroom, don't fuck 'em," he said, giving an elaborate instance of someone sitting on the toilet, grunting and straining while reading joke books on the john.

Speaking of assholes, there'due south a ton of them in Liarmouth. The novel is a kind of "commemoration" of rimming, Waters told me, and it ends at an analingus festival, which is stupid and timely. "In a manner, I am hopefully embracing and making fun of political definiteness in this book. Is there such a matter as analingus rights, and are they being discriminated against? Is information technology woke to be an analingus? I'm trying to come with new minorities!" he said. (If yous don't know what analingus is, I implore you lot to google information technology.) "No one makes fun of themselves. I make fun of everything I love, and I brand fun of myself start." Liarmouth makes fun of anybody, only peculiarly anyone who's always had a sexual urge in their life: tickle fetishists, cum rag rimmers, you proper noun it. "All that moaning and thrusting and humping with another human. Swearing. Drooling. For what?" Waters writes in Liarmouth.

"I love radical sexual theories, even if I don't agree with them," he told me.

"Even grown men who dress up similar babies and clothing diapers?" I asked him.

"Developed babies?" he said, his Cheshire smile spreading. "Lock those fuckers upward."

Liarmouth follows the aforementioned traditions of most John Waters productions: It'south gross, unerotically sexual, shocking, offensive, and rowdy. The novel follows Marsha Sprinkle, a domestic dog-hating, sex-negative, pathological liar who steals wallets and identities and hope. Her entire life is near deception — and she does it with gusto. She snaps at piffling kids. She sneers at men and their disgusting penises that desire so desperately to slither inside of her considering she is withal beautiful and graceful. Really, she hates only most anybody, from people in the military ("mail service-traumatic stress fourth dimension bombs") to families with children ("nutcase Catholics") to airline customers with disabilities ("fakers").

Pooping is also besides obscene for her to participate in; Marsha eats nothing just crackers to ensure that her bowel movements are delicate little pellets. She has a girl, having been impregnated by a man while still a virgin via a series of butthole-related mishaps that I won't ruin for you hither. "She did accept a reason to be traumatized," Waters said. "She was with child from a cum rag rimmer!" (Marsha indeed gets pregnant not through intercourse merely through a rimming mishap with her ex-husband, and you'll really but accept to read the book to get the full picture.)

The sexual practice in Waters' projects works because it'due south depraved, and it speaks to that monkey element in our brains that wants to throw shit and piss and see where it lands. Of course it's tasteless, but it's also hilarious, the well-nigh of import hallmark of whatever Waters project. It'due south why he's been able to get away with the shock of, say, a woman having sexual activity with a chicken in Pink Flamingos. And the humor works considering Waters never punches downwardly. For most of his career, he was the one on the bottom, aiming upwards at conservatives, anti-gay creeps, racist losers, and anyone who can't take a fucking joke.

Punching up is how he'south gotten away with so much. "Empathy is important," he said. "Especially if you lot're the child of a cum rag rimmer. There's not a lot of back up groups if that's your complaint."

Some of Marsha's characteristics are inspired by an old friend of Waters' who also loved to ritualistically lie. "Lying fabricated her happy. Information technology'southward why she got up every day," he said. "She told people the wrong directions." Earlier the pandemic, she would tell people at that place was a terrible pandemic going effectually. "People believe anything! She would tell people in line at the airdrome terrible things, [like] The flight's been canceled," he said. "She said she even felt prettier after she lied."

The novel is another example of Waters turning an utterly distasteful woman into a kind of folk hero. He has always been able to have repellent, rude, crude, slimy women and make them iconic. Marsha is probably the worst person I've ever read in modern literature and yet I notwithstanding rooted for her. I wanted her lies to work. She sits within a canon of Waters' deplorable women, like Divine in Pinkish Flamingos or even Hatchet-Face up in Cry-Baby, both off-kilter, emotionally ugly, and a little mean, simply mostly simply misunderstood.

"Villainous women are good parts, that'southward all. I tin can write them well," he told me, though he doesn't necessarily hold with this categorization. "I didn't think Divine was the villain in Pink Flamingos. Divine was just living her life in nature, doing her memoirs when she was attacked by a jealous debauchee!"

There is a kind of gild in Waters' globe, even if it seems fucked upwards. "The rules in my movies are the people that are judgmental and don't know the whole story are villains, and the people that are proud of their morals — even if they're completely wrong and insane — are the heroes as long as they don't try to hurt anybody else beginning," he said. "They employ what guild says against them as a style. They utilize it equally a personality — not a disorder."

The point of Waters' career, ultimately, has been to make fun of whatever social norms constrain u.s.a.. In the 1970s, for instance, hippie culture was all the rage, so he made Multiple Maniacs, a film that was pro-violence. 1988's Hairspray mocked the tedium of racists afraid of losing their place in the world. 1990'due south Cry-Infant was about class warfare and white trash teens telling squares to become lost. If you lot watch a John Waters motion picture and intrinsically get it, it means you're a part of a community of like-minded weirdos. People who belong nowhere tin find themselves amid their people in a John Waters movie.

People who belong nowhere tin find themselves among their people in a John Waters moving-picture show.

"Everything I've done has fabricated fun of censorship. I made fun of underground fine art movies. I fabricated fun of political correctness today, of gay rules," he said. "In my spoken-word shows, I talk near how we should scare straight people again. I'm tired of being accepted." He suggests that the style to make straights scared once again is for gay men and lesbians to commencement having sexual activity with each other. "I always say: Men, consider the oyster; ladies, talk into the mic." It is a very Waters way to view transgression; he is always lamenting the death of hookup civilisation. "If you want to exist a radical, say yous beloved sex. No one dares say that anymore." (He asked me if "young people" were notwithstanding having sex parties in Brooklyn, which I couldn't really answer, because I am a loser. We both seemed kind of crestfallen about information technology.) In Waters' world, dysfunction is beautiful, degradation is powerful, and in that location's naught to fear because the grotesque is proudly on display.

And while Waters' work has always focused on the fringes, he's become something of a mainstream cultural touchstone. He's been in everything from Saturday Night Live to Search Party (selling a baby to a gay couple, very similar to the happenings in Pinkish Flamingos). Just he doesn't think of himself that mode; he continually tries to push the envelope. "You can't really say the textile of the book is mainstream. I recall it'south more basics than something I've done in a long fourth dimension," he said. But he can admit that the kind of one-act he once had to fight to bring to the surface is now everywhere.

"The culture of filth, whatever that is, is American humor today. That's why all of a sudden Pink Flamingos gets accepted to the National Film Registry. Information technology's nifty!" In the past, Waters has appeared on enough of banned books lists, and his movies were routinely censored; Pink Flamingos was originally banned in parts of Canada and Australia, though information technology volition soon be available via the prestigious Criterion Collection.

But there are however plenty of things that horrify John Waters: "stupidity, racism, Oscar-bait movies — even though I'1000 a proud Academy member," he said. "Then much, but naught fun!"

What he hates the well-nigh, though, is judgment — people who bandage it on others in ways that are punitive and cruel. Oh, and i other thing. "People'southward outfits on airplanes shock me," he said, pressing his fingers into his forehead. "Cutoff pajama bottoms? A filthy, dirty T-shirt? Flip-flops?" He groaned softly and tilted his head down, pressing the pads of his fingers into his creased forehead, whispering an indictment as that smile starts to spread again. "Appalling."

Drome attire aside, Waters is non one to bandage the offset stone. "I attempt to get people out of jail who committed murder. Who am I to judge someone for touching a woman's ass while running for election?" he said with a flourish of his hand when I asked near, ugh, abolish culture. "Look, I hated Bill Cosby earlier rape. And Harvey [Weinstein], am I sorry he's in jail? No. He always said no to my movies anyway."

Waters has an extensive oeuvre, and, await, not all of it is pretty — over again, this is a filmmaker who is friends with freaks and miscreants, and who in one case went on Sat Night Live to act as the model for creepy dudes everywhere. Merely if any of Waters' work has anile poorly, he doesn't care, and, really, why should he? He expresses few regrets for his by work — and a lot of it has aged well. But he does rue some of his gags. "When I made Multiple Maniacs, they hadn't defenseless the Manson family," he told me. The original ending to the 1970 film nigh traveling ransackers was going to say that Divine was personally responsible for Sharon Tate'due south murder. "What was I thinking? But halfway through shooting, they caught them. They were the filthiest people alive. They inspired Pink Flamingos, and I've apologized for all the smartass things I said."

Waters has dedicated a few of his films to Manson family members, and the murders were an ongoing theme in a lot of his work. There was also a "free Tex Watson" gag in Pink Flamingos (Watson is currently in prison for his role in the Manson murders) — which was, obviously, a joke, since he was never getting out, but maybe non a repeatable gag for Waters anymore.

The regret he feels stems directly from the decadeslong friendship he has had with Leslie Van Houten, 1 of the women convicted of the LaBianca murders. Waters became acquainted with her when Rolling Stone asked him to interview Charles Manson; Waters declined merely began corresponding with Van Houten instead. "It changed my smart-donkey stuff about serial killers, which she was non," he told me. "I got to know her really well."

Waters has a real redemptive bent. He believes people can improve and, in fact, wants to give them the room to do and then. Over the years of his friendship with Van Houten, Waters has met her a few times in prison. "To me, she'south the perfect example of existence rehabilitated past the California legal system. She helps women, she teaches people, she hasn't wasted her life," he said. "All you can ever do if you do something that terrible is to make yourself a better person." (Van Houten is still incarcerated in California, though a parole board has recommended her release five times. Two governors have blocked the requests.)

Such is the power of words uttered below that pencil mustache.

Always since he met Van Houten, he'south been advocating for her release. He has a slew of photos of her pinned behind his desk (the ane specifically for "business"), next to one of Waters with Henry Kissinger, i of him with a very young Leonardo DiCaprio and Marker Wahlberg, and a scribbled note from Martin Scorsese congratulating him on the release of 1999'south Pecker. "She was nineteen when she met the biggest mad man in history," he said. "She looks back on it in horror — who wouldn't? It was 1969, probably the well-nigh insane year ever since I've been alive."

Waters was a kid of the '40s who grew up in the '50s and came of age in the radical and tumultuous '60s. In his lifetime, enough of progress has been fabricated (abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, increased racial equity), and progress has besides atrophied (ballgame restrictions, LGBTQ panic, painfully consequent racism). It's tougher than ever to exist transgressive; these days, that often means just being an asshole.

Like nigh people, I wanted Waters to tell me our current moment of historical unrest and agony wasn't the worst it had ever been. I wanted him to tell me it would get better again — that we could make America filthy again. "Depraved used to mean fun," he said when I asked how he felt near our electric current political depravity. "When I was young, the sexual revolution was having sexual activity with someone dissimilar every night. But in COVID? Y'all get to sexual activity parties? What are they, bug chasers? Bossy lesser boosters?" It was strange, but in that moment I would've been delighted to be a snobby bottom booster myself, whatever that is — such is the power of words uttered beneath that pencil mustache.

In person, Waters seems to have no limits on what's advisable to hash out. And nevertheless even the freakiest amid us accept boundaries. When I asked Waters what he did for his recent birthday, it was the merely time I saw him stutter. "I had a birthday dinner with…someone I'g…well, with the person I'grand in love with," he said. I asked him who, but he demurred. "Oh, I don't talk near it," he said. "As soon as you talk about love in public, it disappears." He wiggled his hands in the air as if to evidence affection disappearing in the ether. "I always tell Ricki Lake, 'Don't be talking about stuff that mode.' I totally believe that."

This is maybe the only glimpse of vulnerability that Waters betrays while we're together.

Near the end of our conversation, he picked upwardly a Polaroid camera from ane of the coffee tables in his salon. He didn't so much ask to take my photograph as tell me that it was going to happen. "I have everyone that's ever been in hither," he said every bit I smiled for the shot. He leaned in and raised his eyebrows as if he was about to tell me where a body was buried.

"And everyone has been here."

I was amused. Doesn't everyone want to end up in some kind of John Waters archive? Who knows what weird shit he does with those photos; they're all hidden away. "No one's immune to open up them until 10 years later I die," he said. "I accept cases and cases of photographs. You lot'd think it would be fun to look at them, just information technology isn't, because people are dead."

Frankly, it's hard to believe John Waters himself is ever actually going to die. He doesn't believe it either. "I'1000 not gonna die. I'grand merely going to become that i flake of wet in the earth when I'g buried and I'm going to suck it and claw my manner upwards through the worms and burst out for the resurrection," he said, slashing the air with his hand while cackling.

Regardless, his legacy has outpaced him anyhow, and it'due south clear that no ane person will be able to take over equally our filth elder in his absence. "The time to come of filth is up to young people," he said. "The ones that take the duty are the ones that get on your nerves, the ones who, when they do something, you lot say, 'But alright, that's going also far.' Simply you laugh."

Even if the world is in its darkest place, Waters thinks, there'south still room for a adept joke. "If the earth is sad and sick, they more than e'er desire to express mirth," he said. "I'chiliad an optimist. If this is the end of the world, at least nosotros didn't miss anything."

As our interview was winding down, he offered to bulldoze me into town, essentially a small intersection with a bookstore (where he picks up his fan mail, which, yes, he reads) and a few new restaurants. He drives a nondescript Buick. "I similar people who are rich in Switzerland. They hibernate information technology," he said. "Or I like how Brad Pitt'south famous. He just drives a shitty old car."

I always wonder what celebrated weirdos would've done with themselves if they hadn't found their niche. Tin you imagine John Waters working in accounting? Or trying to assistance you lot buy a couch at W Elm? "I'd be a good defense force lawyer, a good psychiatrist," he said. "But I don't know all the answers."

He paused for a moment — though non a long one, considering he talks and then fast that your ears can hardly keep upwards. "No. The answer is that after you lot reach a certain historic period, you just accept to take responsibility for your life," he said. "You can arraign it on other people all y'all want, but too bad. We've all been dealt a manus."

All day I was anticipating a prosaic moment, a wink of Waters being flawed or irksome or unimpressive or unfunny or dull. No such matter. Even when he speaks manifestly, information technology withal connects with the lilliputian pitter-patter inside of you, xiii years old, optics glued to Divine'south hip padding in Hairspray, your inner monologue wondering, Why does watching this make me experience happy?

Waters rescued generations of freaks from their loneliness. We've been lucky to have him. "Life ain't fair. I'm lucky. I got a good hand," he said every bit he turned to me and smiled one more fourth dimension. "How was your hand?" ●

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